113 Comments

  1. Using stock imagery is standard practice in all advertising, why do you seem so shocked by this?

    And also as the BNP are so unfairly witch-hunted for “thought crime”, would you really be surprised that people would be less inclined to appear on material? However, if you go to their main website, you will see MANY photos of normal people happy to have their faces shown. I find them on every single regional news story that I’ve clicked on so far.

    Again not quite sure why using stock imagery is such a shock lol

    Comment by John Vetons — May 13, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

  2. @John Vetons,

    Whilst it’s a far point that advertising often use stock imagery — I work in advertising and we use royalty-free images a fair amount, though we *often* shoot our own photos too.

    In political advertising, though, it’s very common for real people to be used instead. It comes across as more real, in precisely the kinds of ways that this blog post has pointed out. Sure, most voters wouldn’t even think of searching to see if the photos are stock images and sure, political parties finesse the wording to encourage the quotes from their supporters to be nice and soundbite-friendly.

    But equally, real people come across as more genuine. And, as the last few paragraphs point out, as a politician, you don’t want to be caught spinning quite so blatantly.

    Whilst I’m really not a fan of the BNP, I’m pretty sure I’d still agree if this were commentary about a leaflet for one of the more mainstream parties. It’s just badly done.

    Comment by Owen Blacker — May 13, 2009 @ 11:19 pm

  3. oh, dear! You seem to lack something (too)!

    The Irish Guards are a regiment of _the British Army_!

    ( They come largely from the UK (= GB + NI) and the Republic of Ireland. )

    Comment by Jock — May 13, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

  4. Much as I like and support your argument I do have to point out that the Irish Guards are part of the British Army and are not from the Republic of Ireland. Britain does include Northern Ireland.

    http://www.army.mod.uk/3482.aspx

    Comment by Roy Isserlis — May 13, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

  5. @John Vetons: It’s a problem because it is blatantly dishonest. If an advertiser tried to imply these people supported their product when they are just stock photos, that would be false advertising. I expect the “voters” in election leaflets to be real just as I expect the people on the Daz doorstep challenge to be real members of the public and not PR stooges.

    If you can find evidence that other political parties are also doing that trick, then I would condemn them too. But in this case, it’s the BNP who have been discovered, and they have to live with the consequences of being found out.

    There are no double standards here — if you show a photo of someone and claim they are a customer or a voter, then for them not to be is a totally dishonest attempt to misrepresent and inflate the level of support you have.

    Comment by Philip — May 14, 2009 @ 12:11 am

  6. Confusingly ‘British’ does not necessarily mean just from Great Britain, as ‘Britain’ can refer to the whole of the United Kingdom not just Great Britain, so the ‘British’ can include those from Northern Ireland (although there are political sensibilties to be considered when using this epithet).

    Comment by rs — May 14, 2009 @ 1:06 am

  7. [...] do not like appearing on leaflets. [...]

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  8. [...] The only party I have had anything from which is actually about the elctions is UKIP. The usual Europhobic scaremongering with a picture of (Conservative party man) Winston Churchill on it. Just how stupid are these people? Winston Churchill was the first person to suggest a “United States of Europe” and was all for integration. Meanwhile the fascist BNP has voters who don’t exist. [...]

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  9. @Owen Blacker
    I could understand perhaps that the “susan boyle” thought could be going on here. If the BNP voters are, as they claim (and as, in all fairness, the images on their website shows), normal people like you and I and as far away from stardom as you can get, then it may have actually been worse to put these sorts of faces on a glossy leaflet. I find it hard to believe that all the faces on my Tory and Labour leaflets really look that good lol Where are the blemishes, stray nasal hairs and wonky noses? :) Maybe honesty here would have been a bit *too* honest about what normal voters look like. I do however suspect the comments to be genuine.

    @Philip
    The skinny folk advertising chocolate bars are all dishonest also, by virtue if they loved them that much then they wouldn’t be that skinny! No actors, models or props are avid fans of whatever they’re being paid to push. It’s not dishonesty at all, it’s called the ad game. Whenever I see a woman smiling while she’s changing a soiled nappy and remarking how wonderful the absorbtion is, now *THAT* is dishonety - who smiles when changing a dirty nappy?!?

    After looking in Google images for the true faces of the BNP, I kept coming over one image very frequently. This one: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/DJDT/democracy.jpg

    This certainly isn’t stock photography and if I was a BNP supporter I wouldn’t want my face appearing on leaflets either if this could be the consequence. The main parties don’t have this happen to them so I guess you can’t really blame the role of the pensioner and the mother from preferring a stock image face than their real one in a leaflet going out to 29 million (I think it was) homes. I don’t think I’d have the balls for that!

    Comment by John Vetons — May 14, 2009 @ 4:14 am

  10. As well as point made about Irish Guards, he is actually wearing the uniform of the Scots Guards.

    Comment by Just passing — May 14, 2009 @ 6:25 am

  11. Well I’ve just googled “John Vetons”, and guess what? He doesn’t exist… EPIC FAIL

    Comment by 100% Aryan — May 14, 2009 @ 6:55 am

  12. Anyone can see these are stock photos (the only time you’ll see
    good looking pensioners is in stock photos). They would have been better off not using images at all.

    Personally I am more outraged by TV ads that use actors pretending to be real people
    advocating certain products like toothpaste and bio-yoghurts.

    Comment by DaisyM — May 14, 2009 @ 7:51 am

  13. Scooped! And I forgot all about Tineye while I was at it… but:
    http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/05/bnp_stealing_im.asp

    1. Without the manual look-up on istockphoto.com I wouldn’t have discovered that they probably found that picture of mum + daughter by searching for ‘white mother’. Seriously.

    2. I was looking on istockphoto.com because I’d earlier found some other campaign material containing images that were used from istockphoto.com WITHOUT PERMISSION (complete with watermarks, some of them clumsily cropped and/or reversed). There’s a pretty good chance that these images were used without payment/permission, too.

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 14, 2009 @ 8:11 am

  14. “who smiles when changing a dirty nappy?!?”

    Me! It’s a truly lovely moment, especially if your baby has been constipated and in obvious pain for hours or days. But even when they’re regular as clockwork, seeing a nappy full of poo is all part of the joys of parenthood and really does bring a smile to this face. Now, back to the proper debate …

    Comment by Kershan — May 14, 2009 @ 8:53 am

  15. Good stuff and although you may be wrong on the Irish guard stuff, doesn’t take away from the fact that BNP supporters are either to ugly or ashamed to put their name and face to their beliefs.

    Also, people do know that under BNP policy, Ireland will be absorbed back into the UK.

    War anyone?

    Comment by Daniel Hoffmann-Gill — May 14, 2009 @ 8:55 am

  16. @John Vetons: Regarding “democracy.jpg”, I completely and unconditionally condemn vigilante violence against people for their beliefs, no matter how vile I think those beliefs are. Nevertheless, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones:
    http://www.uaf.org.uk/news.asp?choice=70124
    The BNP are no strangers to violence and intimidation themselves.

    Regarding advertising: your message is so full of canards it’s difficult to counter them all here, but I’ll try:
    * Simply liking chocolate doesn’t automatically make you fat. All of my friends like chocolate. Not many are fat.
    * Changing a nappy can be enjoyable. I have changed nappies, and you very quickly get used to the squeamish side.
    * Being paid to say you like something is completely subjective. If you have a way of proving beyond all reasonable doubt that somebody doesn’t like something when they say they do, bring it on. But “I don’t like nappies therefore nobody does” is not a valid argument here.
    * On the other hand, being paid to make a factually incorrect objective statement in advertising or campaigning is wrong. If a pharmaceutical company claimed their product was safe when they knew it wasn’t, there would be fines and possibly criminal prosecutions. If the BNP claim that these people are their voters when they are not, that is objectively false and therefore wrong.
    * Don’t you think political parties (the people who want to run the country) should be subject to higher standards than chocolate sellers?

    Comment by Philip — May 14, 2009 @ 10:44 am

  17. “And also as the BNP are so unfairly witch-hunted for “thought crime”,”: Not just the BNP it seems:
    http://www.bloggerheads.com/anne_milton/labels/tory%20ringers.html
    The Tories are at it too. And it’s just as bad when they do it.

    There’s no witch-hunt against the BNP, only against dishonest politicians.

    Comment by Philip — May 14, 2009 @ 10:50 am

  18. If the images are taken from istockphoto, then they’re in violation of istock’s terms unless they purchased extended licenses for all the pix.

    Section #4.7 states:

    you may not … use or display any Content that features a model or person in a manner that (i) would lead a reasonable person to think that such person uses or personally endorses any business, product, service, cause, association or other endeavour;

    http://www.istockphoto.com/license.php

    Obviously I have no insight or information re. how the BNP licenses its stock photography.

    Comment by Sue — May 14, 2009 @ 11:33 am

  19. You should submit this to the ASA - using fake testimonials in advertising is against the Advertising Standards Code. I know in television that every testimonial can only be broadcast with a signed testimonial form to prove that it is genuine - print advertising should do something similar.

    Comment by Gillian — May 14, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

  20. Political pamphlets are outside of the remit of the ASA. Yet another example of ‘one rule for them’…

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 14, 2009 @ 12:10 pm

  21. Looking at Electoral Commission rules, even if the models have been paid an additional fee for this kind of use (as is the norm), then the BNP have another problem:

    http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/document-summary?assetid=71661

    3.29 Candidates may wish to use canvassers to help with the election
    campaign. It is, however, illegal to employ paid canvassers for the purpose of
    promoting or procuring a particular result at an election before, during or after
    the election….
    3.30 The legislation describes canvassing as:
    … by word, message, writing or in any other manner, endeavour to
    persuade any person to give or dissuade any person from giving, his
    vote, whether as an elector or proxy

    Surely these testimonials apply? This looks to be quite a hole the BNP have dug for themselves.

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 14, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

  22. I think you’ll find that most BNP supporters believe that cameras capture their souls, hence the regretable use of stock pictures.

    Comment by dmcw — May 14, 2009 @ 1:21 pm

  23. Considering the other parties at troughminster have been blatantly lying to us for nearly 60 years, a little bit of poetic licence is reasonable.

    Comment by beowulf — May 14, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

  24. Surely there are too many words on that pamphlet to work effectively for your typical mouthbreathing BNP voter. They need more pictures, not fewer.

    Comment by Mark E — May 14, 2009 @ 3:25 pm

  25. [...] over on the newspeak blog, they’ve been using powerful image recognition software to discover that the pictures of [...]

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  26. I was sitting in a bar last week when a skinheaded, doc-martin’d chap came to our table with a ‘newspaper’. He introduced it by saying, “It’s not racist, it’s for us”!

    Comment by Mike C — May 14, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

  27. “I was sitting in a bar last week when a skinheaded, doc-martin’d chap came to our table with a ‘newspaper’. He introduced it by saying, “It’s not racist, it’s for us”!” - Obviously from the “UAF” then! He didn’t set about you with a claw hammer, by any chance, did he?

    BTW: I have it on very good authority that the BNP have bought the extended licence for the photos that they’ve used on their leaflets - so no story there, I’m afraid.

    Comment by Hugo Syn — May 14, 2009 @ 7:41 pm

  28. The BNP’s ‘policies’ get a good press in the right wing rags that we have for newspapers and many decent people are falling for it. Let’s hope - no, let’s make - that we all wake up soon and get real. Please.

    Comment by Gary — May 14, 2009 @ 10:24 pm

  29. The worst thing about that flyer is that the personal quotes are written as if spoken by the person(s) in each picture, when clearly these people do not exist and the quotes are fabricated.

    The BNP campaign is built upon propaganda and distortion of the truth to suit their ends. The British National Party base their entire existence upon fear and mistruths.

    Catch it, bin it, kill it.

    Comment by John Smith — May 14, 2009 @ 10:26 pm

  30. There are too many replies here to comment on all the points made without taking over the whole debate, but firstly, I cannot truly believe anybody actually does enjoy changing a soiled nappy lol You may learn to tollerate it but I doubt anybody can truly convince me that they wake up each day in anticipation of this wonderful event lolol

    And as for the sad fuckwit who thinks that nothing exists unless it’s on page #1 of Google … go and make some friends in the real world would you?! For your own sake if not mine. *sigh*

    Again I find it hard to really see how using stock imagery for politics is any different to using it in any other industry. I’ve read and thought about all the replies people have taken the time to make, but I find it no worse, or better, than believing that any normal woman really sits in an overflowing bathtub while ramming a Flake down her throat.

    I don’t however believe that the testimonials are false. I think in all likelihood and probability, they are real quotes from real people and stock images were slapped next to them. I can’t see the big deal with doing this.

    But to comment further on a point made by Tim Ireland, canvassers are people actively seeking to engage and persuade voters; since the images used could have been used for anything, and by anybody, there is no way you could classify the subjects as canvessers because they aren’t actively doing anything and had no knowledge of the future use of that photograph at the time it was taken.

    Canvessers are the real-life people who knock on your door to annoy you while you’re minding your own business sitting in a bath with a Flake.

    Comment by John Vetons — May 15, 2009 @ 2:45 am

  31. The people who knock on your door are not trying to pursuade you to vote for their party; they’re trying to get their vote out. They really only focus on the people who they know already favour their party, and they’re trying to get you to promise to come to the polling booth.

    If they are organized enough they will have people noting down who comes to the polls at the door (you are not allowed to propagandize people at that point). If you don’t show up as you promised, they will come round and hassle you later in the day.

    With the amount of apathy going on, this is how to win elections. There’s an art to it. It’s hard systematic work. More people should be aware of it instead of believing in the kindergarden explanations of how elections work.

    Oh yeah, send in all your election leaflets to http://www.thestraightchoice.org/

    Comment by Julian Todd — May 15, 2009 @ 8:29 am

  32. 1. Typically a child is in discomfort until they’ve shed a load. It’s not a pleasant job, but there’s as much joy to it as successfully coaxing a burp. I guess you have to be there.

    2. I think many people suspect by now, Mr Vetons, that you are sock-puppeting for the BNP. Plus, you yourself used Google to make your case about the ‘true’ face of the BNP earlier (i.e. the innocent victim of racial violence). This itself undermines your comeback while adding to the suspicion that you are sock-puppeting for the BNP, because there are few sane people outside the BNP who hold the view that they are innocent victims of racial violence.

    3. There are a number of ways that this is a big deal. One of them has to do with trust, and the BNP are right now trying to convince us that, unlike other politicians, they are somehow *more* worthy of our trust than politicians of any mainstream party. Clearly, they are not.

    4. But it would appear in some cases at least that they can save us money through the ingenious act of taking things without paying for them. (The latest I hear is that payment was made for images in this pamphlet, but I still have a watermark-littered example of campaign material to hand and licence-holders are looking into it.)

    5. Another way it’s a big deal is from the perspective of the models, the photographers and the providers/agents for these images. This use of these photos (i.e. assigning a political opinion to the models, imposing on them an endorsement they have not made and few would wish to be associated with), I now have confirmed, is NOT permitted under the terms of the licence.

    6. It is not up to you to determine the who does and does not qualify as a canvasser, but the Electoral Commission according to the definition laid down under the European Parliamentary Elections Act 2002. But to help you better understand the situation; imagine if an employer used staff who had already been paid for a canvassing task. That would still apply, yes? After all, the guidance doesn’t say it is wrong to pay canvassers, but that it is wrong to use paid canvassers. There’s a reason people agonise over the wording of these things, you know. The guidance book I quoted from also makes specific reference to writing (as opposed to your narrow definition of canvassing as door-knocking). Yes, even if their hearts aren’t in it and/or they’re not even aware of what they’re really enthusing about, which is kind of the point on several fronts when you think about it. Below, I’ve quoted from the guidance book again so you may read it again:

    http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/document-summary?assetid=71661

    3.29 Candidates may wish to use canvassers to help with the election
    campaign. It is, however, illegal to employ paid canvassers for the purpose of
    promoting or procuring a particular result at an election before, during or after
    the election….
    3.30 The legislation describes canvassing as:
    … by word, message, writing or in any other manner, endeavour to
    persuade any person to give or dissuade any person from giving, his
    vote, whether as an elector or proxy

    7. On that note, Mr Vetons, if you are sock-puppeting and somehow gainfully employed by the BNP (as opposed to being a mere enthusiastic supporter), then you too may be guilty of paid canvassing, even if you have only gone so far as to try to convince us that the BNP are worthy of our vote because they are not the dishonest scoundrels they appear to be.

    PS - The same applies even if paid staff ‘only’ sock-puppet on blogs to bad-mouth other parties/candidates, so watch out paid people from all parties, because if I find examples of this I will work to confirm and report it. Yes, and please do send in all your election leaflets to http://www.thestraightchoice.org/

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 15, 2009 @ 8:45 am

  33. Having read through the istockphoto license (http://www.istockphoto.com/license_comparison.php) it’s quite clear that they shouldn’t have used this photo. Under “Prohibited uses for both Standard and Extended license” it clearly lists “Use that depicts personal endorsement by model”.
    I wonder if it would be worth informing the company of the misuse of their product?

    Comment by Vicky — May 15, 2009 @ 11:39 am

  34. iStockphoto are aware of the situation. Like others, I have been in touch with them and they have confirmed that this use of these images by the BNP (i.e. assigning testimonials to models) is NOT permitted under the terms of the licence. It remains to be seen how they plan to rectify the situation after the BNP have printed/distributed up to 29 million copies of their pamphlet featuring these images/testimonials.

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 15, 2009 @ 11:53 am

  35. Good point Vicky. I’ve emailed iStockphoto to alert them to the possibility that their images are possibly being used in contravention of the license agreement.

    “Dear Sirs

    I wanted to draw your attention to what I believe is the misuse of iStockphoto images in an election leaflet for the far-right British National Party (BNP), a party whose policy commitments as stated in its constitution are “committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.” [my emphasis] In other words, their constitution gives them, if elected, a mandate to change the law to remove non-white people from the UK.

    You can see the images in question here:

    http://www.newspeak.org.uk/2009/05/13/british-national-party-voters-dont-exist/

    This shows that, even if the BNP has a licence for use of these images - which appear to have been cropped to remove the istockphoto watermark - they are in contravention of the istockphoto license #4.7 which states:

    “you may not … use or display any Content that features a model or person in a manner that … would lead a reasonable person to think that such person uses or personally endorses any business, product, service, cause, association or other endeavour”

    I will be grateful if you will investigate this and take whatever action you deem necessary.

    Regards

    Jonathan Proudfoot”

    Comment by Jonathan Proudfoot — May 15, 2009 @ 12:47 pm

  36. As nobody has pointed out here, but has been mentioned on The Enemies Of Reason ( http://enemiesofreason.blogspot.com/2009/05/bnp-uses-foreigners-in-election.html ), the BNP has given BRITISH money to a FOREIGN company using FOREIGN photographers and FOREIGN models. Are there no UK models or photographers? Of course there are.

    I don’t have a problem with using US photos, but who are the BNP to tell me not to use a Polish plumber when they’re quite willing to take advantage of cheaper foreign labour themselves?

    Great post!

    Comment by JC — May 15, 2009 @ 2:19 pm

  37. Whether the photos are real or not the things that are being said by the people are clearly ludicrous anyway. How can anyone take these guys seriously?

    http://www.hyperbolictangents.net/2009/05/thought-the-bnp/

    Comment by Mark — May 15, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

  38. [...] on closer inspection, as pointed out elsewhere, the images are not real BNP voters (you think a doctor would vote BNP AND agree to have their [...]

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  39. [...] Newspeak » Blog Archive » British National Party Voters Don’t Exist In the last few days the British Nationalist Party (BNP) have started to deliver their campaign leaflets. There are at least two varieties but they are both quite similar and their main campaigning point is against immigration. You can see leaflets delivered by the BNP around the UK thanks to The Straight Choice a website dedicated to mapping campaign leaflets. The current leaflets feature a section titled “Why we’re all voting BNP” with photos accompanied by a bit of text, presumably this is to encourage people to think BNP voters are just like you. Unfortunately for the BNP none of these voters are real and you can prove it by using web-based reverse image searches. (tags: advertising bnp) [...]

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  40. The fact that they’re still using that photo of a spitfire on their literature continues to raise a smile on this geek’s face. That specific aircraft (RF-D) was flown by Fl Lt (later Wing Commander) Jan Eugeniusz Ludwig Zumbach of 303 Polish Fighter Squadron.

    Added to the photo of the Italian couple, and it shows that underneath it all, the BNP really are away with the fairies.

    Comment by Rob — May 15, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

  41. I am begining to feel really sorry for this so called ‘far right’ extremist party. The reports in the media are pathetic. I know a lot of members and they are no way racist. Is this really all they can come up with? We wouldn’t vote for anyone else. Parliament should be closed down and boarded up.

    Comment by Sylvia Howard — May 16, 2009 @ 1:30 am

  42. Rob. Did you know that a Polish film crew was their at the opening of the road show? Know of course you didn’t. You haven’t got a clue have you?

    Comment by Sylvia Howard — May 16, 2009 @ 1:32 am

  43. [...] Newspeak: The current [BNP] leaflets feature a section titled “Why we’re all voting BNP” with photos [...]

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  44. The BNP used purchased legitimate stock photos for the purpose of promotional leaflets!
    Perfectly legal, perfectly the same as many many businesses, political organizations and charities around the world but because its the BNP it becomes some how tainted? The press/media report it as being some how wrong? They suggest wrong doing in a criminal and sordid fashion. JUST ASK YOURSELF WHY?

    The result of this bigotry only goes to show HOW RIGHT THE BNP ARE WHEN THEY POINT TO THE MEDIA “WITCH HUNT” against them.

    Who are pulling the strings?

    Who is dictating the agenda?

    The scum politicians have been caught red handed with their fingers in the till, their contempt for the British people knows no bounds and we quite rightly try to bring them to book but, in the same way we should bring the media to the same “Answering” as the dross of Trough-Minster!
    Criminal actions and intent should be punished, and all those thick sheep like creatures that parrot the verbal diarrhea of the con artists should GET OFF THEIR BACK SIDES AND RESEARCH THE TRUTH FOR THEM SELVES BUT BEWARE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE WHAT YOU FIND!

    Comment by Sean Gibbs-Percival — May 16, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

  45. FOR ROB:

    As for BNP supporters not willing to submit their photos for publication in BNP promotional leaflets

    1, THEY ARE!

    2, IF THEY WERE ANXIOUS NOT TO, HOW THE HELL CAN ANYONE BLAME THEM WITH THE LOONY LEFTISTS.

    3, THERE IS A MEDIA WITCH HUNT AGAINST THEM YOU ****** ******

    4, AWAY WITH THE FAIRIES? YOU NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH REAL PEOPLE!

    Comment by Sean Gibbs-Percival — May 16, 2009 @ 12:31 pm

  46. Sean Gibbs-Percival:

    iStockphoto, the providers/agents for three of these images, have made it perfectly clear that this is not a legitimate use of these stock images. The legality of using paid models to present testimonials is also under question; at least with regards to this election (I refer you again to the European Parliamentary Elections Act 2002).

    I think you will also find that other political parties are careful to use unpaid volunteers when they do use actors and/or use other methods to thrust happy/photogenic faces in front of the camera (such as Tory MP Anne Milton, who used members of her own campaign team, or Labour who bussed the same family around throughout the 2005 general election and gave them nothing more than access to the juice and croissants table). I personally have criticised Labour and the Conservatives for less-than-honest tactics on this front in the past, but I’m not aware of anything on par with this event. If you find any evidence that proves greater wrongdoing and/or supports your claim of A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY AGAINST YOU, then please do let me know.

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 16, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

  47. No 8, whoever No 8 is, is wrong when he says that ‘Winston Churchill was the first person to suggest a “United States of Europe” and was all for integration.
    I submit the following from original archives:-

    During a cabinet meeting in early February 1953:
    Winston Churchill considered blocking all immigration to Britain because he feared a growing “coloured population” was posing a threat to Britain’s social stability.
    Churchill, then 79, told Cabinet colleagues that he did not “want a parti-coloured UK”. At a Cabinet meeting on February 3, 1954, the prime minister told colleagues: “Problems will arise if many coloured people settle here. Are we to saddle ourselves with colour problems in UK?”
    Churchill said immigrants were attracted to Britain by the welfare state and he said:
    “Public opinion in UK won’t tolerate it once it gets beyond certain limits.”

    He also said, “In the House of Commons on May 11, 1953, Churchill said “We are with Europe but not of it; we are linked but not compromised. We are associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”

    Comment by Rayatcov — May 16, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

  48. You could have used THIS photo of the doctor/model: http://twitpic.com/55la1

    Comment by Mike Power — May 16, 2009 @ 1:31 pm

  49. Haha, silly fascists.

    Comment by Charles C — May 16, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

  50. On the BNP leaflet that I received, the builders on the back (http://www.thestraightchoice.org/leaflet.php?q=55) are also from iStockPhoto (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-5132168-construction-worker-portraits.php) and shot by Boone Rodriguez in Oregon, so that’s another endorsement from the British Working Man, ha ha ha. I’m sure Herr Goebbels wouldn’t have made such schoolboy errors.

    Comment by Ian Winter — May 16, 2009 @ 6:47 pm

  51. [...] the comments are not a lie too? I want to see some proof, this entire leaflet is not complete lie. British National Party Voters Don?t Exist Newspeak I did see appeared to the other day, a picture of that would have made a fine photograph for this [...]

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  52. A good find from Ian Winter there. All that remains is that family of five on the cover and we’ll have a clean sweep :o)

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 16, 2009 @ 7:15 pm

  53. No surprises, I don’t expect much from the BNP. The intellectual dwarfs may fool their members but not the general public. Underneath all attempts to look respectable is a shallow grip of reality.

    Comment by Milton — May 16, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

  54. If the BNP are using photographs of Americans to promote British nationalism, they’re even more dim-witted than I thought.

    Comment by Tea Junkie — May 17, 2009 @ 1:12 am

  55. Just a thought, but every stock photography website I’ve used has a disclaimer attached to photographs of identifiable people saying something to the effect that “You may *not* imply that the subject of the photograph personally endorses any product or service.”

    If you know the sites the photos came from, check their T&Cs. If these leaflets are in contravention, make sure you let them know - stock photography sites are amongst the most litigious on the web.

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — May 17, 2009 @ 9:47 am

  56. For example, I followed the “Caring Healthcare Professional” image through to iStockPhoto.com and found the following restriction in their T&Cs:

    You may *not*
    7) use or display any Content that features a model or person in a manner that (i) would lead a reasonable person to think that such person uses or personally endorses any business, product, service, cause, association or other endeavour;

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — May 17, 2009 @ 10:16 am

  57. Hi folks. Just dropped by to let you know that I’ve been tipped off to the fact that the family picture on the front is genuine; the only genuine picture in most if not all versions of this pamphlet, in fact. The picture is of candidate Nick Cass and his family:

    http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article:904-People-like-him-voting-BNP

    That same article points out that; “the BNP’s chief designer is one Mark Collett of Leeds, a man widely derided in the BNP as incompetent”

    I hope Mark Collett was careful to design a special pamphlet for Yorkshire and the Humber, where Nick Cass is running as a candidate, because there may also be rules about identifying candidates in campaign literature:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8040408.stm

    (It’s Sunday, otherwise I’d look it up.)

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 17, 2009 @ 10:27 am

  58. The family on the front of the leaflet is Nick Cass and his wife and kids. Nick Cass is 2nd on the BNP list of candidates for Yorks & Humber in the forthcoming European Elections.

    http://bnp.org.uk/category/election-candidates-2009/eu-elections-election-candidates-2009/yorkshire-humberside-candidates/

    Here’s a story about a previous use of the same picture. It seems that they can’t get anyone to stand still long enough to have their picture taken
    http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article:904-People-like-him-voting-BNP

    I don’t know why they didn’t take pictures of people on that membership list that got leaked. Their names are in the public domain, and if they’re still members they should jump at the chance to stand up for what they believe in, shouldn’t they?

    Comment by Nipper — May 17, 2009 @ 12:45 pm

  59. #23

    Considering the other parties at troughminster have been blatantly lying to us for nearly 60 years, a little bit of poetic licence is reasonable.

    #

    No, it’s really not.

    Unless you want another 60 years of incompetent liars?

    I suppose one reason to vote BNP might be that the level of incompetence shown by them could make it a bit easier to see the lies if they ever came to power.
    Perhaps they should use that on their next leaflet.

    Comment by Alraggh — May 17, 2009 @ 1:10 pm

  60. Sorry, didn’t read number 57. Sorry to repeat.

    Comment by Nipper — May 17, 2009 @ 3:58 pm

  61. Also, the web site of American political magazine [the Onion] has run an “American Voices” section with about ten different photos of people commenting on the news, under different names, for many years. I doubt they’re even people from Onio at all.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 18, 2009 @ 2:39 am

  62. Robert Carnegie - I can’t tell if you’re being serious about The Onion or not…!

    Comment by Dave Spencieri — May 18, 2009 @ 10:33 am

  63. That’s how British I am. :-) “America’s Finest News Source” they call themselves. Look, I’m talking about the people in these pictures: http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/mens_health_department_proposed

    Of course the word “fine” has more meanings… [The Daily Show] which you can see on TV channel “More4″ is pretty fine as well.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 18, 2009 @ 11:45 am

  64. [...] aren’t real. The builders are American. Some of the other pictures are also stock images, and not real BNP voters. Most tellingly, the ‘normal’ white family pictured in the poster features this guy who [...]

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  65. BNP leaflets distributed in Yorks do have the Cass family on them, without identifying the candidate, if that is breaking the rules. The leaflet came through the door tucked inside the weekly Somerfield supermarket leaflet you get around here, I’ve e-mailed a Somerfield about this telling them I’ll be going elsewhere for my groceries now.

    Comment by Stan — May 18, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

  66. Hmm, do the BNP and the local supermarket hire the same leaflet dropping entrepreneur, or did the shop just take on someone who happens to be a BNP man? (Me: Co-op member, but Asda is handy and Lidl is… interesting.)

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 18, 2009 @ 11:53 pm

  67. The Sun: Former Scots Guards NCO Stuart Walker, 37, was shocked to see a picture of himself in uniform outside Buckingham Palace on a poll leaflet… Stuart, who left the Army in 1997, first knew about it when it dropped through a relative’s letterbox. The dad-of-two, now a corporate manager in London, said he rang the BNP’s offices to complain and was told to “f*** off”. He told The Sun: “I was completely outraged when I saw this leaflet. I think they got the photo off a website and the quote they’ve made up. They are scumbags and I’d never vote for them in a million years.”

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2436087.ece

    Comment by Tim Ireland — May 19, 2009 @ 8:37 am

  68. Good find, Tim. Can anyone who still thinks this is a witch-hunt against the BNP kindly explain why their party stole this ex-Scots Guard’s photo, used it without any permission at all, and when he rang up to complain, told him to fuck off? This is not a political party. This is a playground gang of bullies.

    Comment by Philip — May 19, 2009 @ 9:39 am

  69. To be fair, “f*** off” might not be their actual words, although I wouldn’t be surprised. Perhaps someone would like to ring them up again as an experiment, to verify. But as which character? Welsh would be a lot of fun.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 19, 2009 @ 10:19 am

  70. Does anyone actually have a copy of this leaflet they could post on to the people at iStockPhoto? The images are clearly being used in contravention of their T&Cs, and it would be “interesting” to see what they decide to do about it… ;-D

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — May 19, 2009 @ 10:56 am

  71. It seems to have been in the mainstream media too: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/local-elections/5331700/British-pensioners-on-BNP-election-leaflet-are-actually-Italian-models.html

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — May 19, 2009 @ 1:42 pm

  72. Re Britain/Great Britain/UK, etc.

    “Britain” refers to the British Isles, which include Great Britain (’great’ i.e. the biggest isle in Britain), Ireland (all of it), the Isle of Man (which is also not part of the UK), etc.

    “Britain” and “Great Britain” are geographical terms, not a political ones. United Kingdom = N Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales (politically).

    OK THANKS!

    Comment by Boba Flett — May 19, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

  73. british national party voters do exist as i am one of them

    Comment by drew — May 20, 2009 @ 8:51 am

  74. [...] Those BNP voters are stock photos –actors again, Italian this time. [...]

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  75. Drew: do you show up on film or digital camera? That seems to be what’s lacking. There’s also the question of airbrushing but that’s different.

    Now… who was it (different political group I think) who was caught using a photo of their rally that was actually a small group of people copied over and over to look like a huge crowd?

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 20, 2009 @ 2:16 pm

  76. [...] leader’s name as ‘Gri££in’ on their web forums – that their supporters don’t like appearing on leaflets, that they slander war heroes, and that the BNP is in any case full of psychopaths and [...]

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  77. Pete McKimmie: here’s the one that I received http://www.thestraightchoice.org/leaflet.php?q=130

    There are lots of copies of this leaflet uploaded at thestraightchoice.org. It would be great if everyone here could join in with the effort of making a record there of all the election leaflets we get.

    Comment by duncan — May 21, 2009 @ 10:00 pm

  78. [...] in a magnificent irony, the photos of supposed BNP voters are actually stolen straight off a stock photo website and many of the so-called BNP supporters are … wait for it … foreigners. Photo: BNP [...]

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  79. [...] Steve Paulger, who writes the Newspeak blog, ran the photos through a tracing programme and found that a pair of fun-loving, silver haired retirees, voting BNP because they “are pushed to the back of the queue behind asylum seekers”, are in fact the Italian parents of photographer Luca Di Filippo. [...]

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  80. What a load of garbage the BNP are going to kick your lefty backsides back into the slimepit you evolved from.
    Steve Paulger you will not change a single mind with this trash.

    Comment by DANNIELLE STOKES — May 23, 2009 @ 6:20 am

  81. Isn’t it illegal now under the Unfair Commercial Practices Regulations which came into force in May 2008 to ‘falsely represent oneself as a consumer.’?????? You can get up to five years in jail!!

    Comment by Sarah — May 23, 2009 @ 9:35 am

  82. [...] leaflet, giving their reasons for voting BNP. Except they?re not. Not ?typical Britons? that is. Steve Paulger, who writes the Newspeak blog, ran the photos through a tracing programme and found that a pair of fun-loving, silver haired [...]

    Pingback by BNP voters don't exist and their leaflet is a lie - PPRuNe Forums — May 24, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

  83. come on guy’s you know that if the British National Party used an agency it would be boycotted and put out of business, as for the models, well they’d be sacked from their day job and be hounded by the media.
    It’s hardly a democracy anymore - that must be what some of you want - more of the same. Can’t you accept that Free speech and the right of political opponent’s are NOT censored in a democracy!

    Comment by damsel Sage — May 26, 2009 @ 1:27 am

  84. Re: damsel sage #84:

    I think that their willingness to casually break the T&Cs of the stock photography site, if not the law (I have seen suggestions elsewhere that they didn’t pay for the images at all, but rather just cropped the watermarks out of the free “proofs”) is testament to their character.

    The argument that “they had to use foreign models because using real British models to portray Britons would have got the models shunned”. ironic though it is, at least shows some degree of acceptance of their position in British politics.

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — May 26, 2009 @ 10:33 am

  85. If the BNP is on the edge of a major breakthrough, and there are thousands of people ringing the BNP every day, then there must be loads of people who would be willing to take part in BNP literature. After all, they can find enough people to run as candidates, a much riskier proposition than doing a bit of modeling. You have to put your address on things if you’re a candidate. Maybe BNP supporters are scared to stand up and be counted, something that does not show them in a good light, to be honest, especially in light of their propaganda about the strength of the British character and the blitz and all that other hot air. Frankly I think that this whole farce is more down to the BNP leadership attempting to look professional and slick than any kind of fear of attack or retribution. This is the product of incompetence and corner-cutting, something that we don’t need any more of in British politics.

    Comment by Nipper — May 26, 2009 @ 6:53 pm

  86. Who models for mortgage lender publicity currently? People who are paid to do so. If they’ll do that… Only Christians and the police are not allowed to be BNP members. For everyone else, not a problem.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 26, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

  87. at #83:

    Boycotting businesses that support racism is also a freedom we have, as well as the ‘freedom of speech’ (which we have no constitutional guarentee of anyway) to inform others of these businesses so they too can avoid them. The BNP leaflet in my area was hand delivered by a company with leaflets from a number of other businesses, all of which I contacted to inform them that their leaflets were mingled with racist materials, and since they were willing to do business with a company that distributes racist material then I would no longer be a customer. No threats or intimidation, just the peaceful right to withdraw custom. I’ve had an apology from one already, who will be investigating the matter - hopefully the distributor will learn not to deal with such tainted material as the risk to their business will be greater than the profit from taking money from racists. I’ve recruited quite a few neighbours to the cause (some of whom had already complained) and word is spreading.

    I live in a happily mixed cultural area and we don’t need people trying to create divisions and scapegoat some of the least powerful members of society. Griffin is a Cambridge graduate from a family of active tories, don’t be fooled that he has any interest in working people, other than to divide them up and make them less powerful, to support the rich. People need to open their eyes a bit wider and look at the history of the BNP and their more prominent members.

    Comment by watmough — May 27, 2009 @ 9:14 am

  88. Look, delivering leaflets for cash, not love (or hate?), is either a miserable, poorly paid job, or in the case of the Post Office a legal duty, or both. And god knows we don’t have freedom of speech in this country really but if we did then boycotting other people whose leaflets happened to be in the same bundle or to arrive on the same day would be an attack on it. Now, outright lies in election literature should be dealt with separately. But “I disapprove of what you say, and I will forever abjure the grocery vendor who inadvertently co-subsidises your exercise of the putative right to say it, equal opportunity employer or not”? That’s not very democratic spirited, is it?

    I have a good mind to spy on you to find out each place where you shop and put up a National Front poster ninety seconds before you get there, with superglue. Before I’m done you’ll have to go to Inverness for your messages, as they say up there. Or perhaps I won’t.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — May 27, 2009 @ 11:58 am

  89. I find I have to agree with Robert Carnegie in principle: freedom of speech means everyone should be allowed to say what they want, no matter how much you disagree with it. Much as I despise the BNP and their hateful words, they have a right to say what they like. Our various postal services should not be in the business of censoring our mail. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmj171188/1435072254/

    Comment by Philip — May 27, 2009 @ 12:21 pm

  90. [...] More recently, a blog post uncovered the somewhat embarassing detail that the BNP supporters in a recent campaign leaflet don’t exist. [...]

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  91. [...] They invent voters. [...]

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  92. This story is just another anti BNP story with a pointless story at that!! It is an offence to publish an image in 2009 of military or police personel under the terrorism uk laws.. Most advertisers in press and tv use models to advertise products including labour,cons,libs and ukip!! The BNP are under attack from undemocratic labour,cons,libs and ukip running up to euro elections and last week were accused of using real images of the soldier shown above which were then obviously found to be not the case..it seems the BNP are being scrutinised and ridiculed on purpose and the real spineless corrupt and greedy tricksters carry on scotch free..This country is corrupt and robert mugabe would be proud of the actions displayed by all other non BNP partys today in 2009!!!
    I have never voted but will be voting BNP like many others i know because we have had enough of gordan stalin akhmed browns anti british pro islamic stance!!

    Comment by paul shemwell — June 2, 2009 @ 4:03 am

  93. This story is just another anti BNP story with a pointless story at that!! It is an offence to publish an image in 2009 of military or police personel under the terrorism uk laws.. Most advertisers in press and tv use models to advertise products including labour,cons,libs and ukip!! The BNP are under attack from undemocratic labour,cons,libs and ukip running up to euro elections and last week were accused of using real images of the soldier shown above which were then obviously found to be not the case..it seems the BNP are being scrutinised and ridiculed on purpose and the real spineless corrupt and greedy tricksters carry on scotch free..This country is corrupt and robert mugabe would be proud of the actions displayed by all other non BNP partys today in 2009!!!
    I have never voted but will be voting BNP like many others i know because we have had enough of gordan stalin akhmed browns anti british pro islamic stance!! Vote BNP and say not ukabad.

    Comment by paul shemwell — June 2, 2009 @ 4:04 am

  94. “It is an offence to publish an image in 2009 of military or police personel under the terrorism uk laws.”

    Hahahahahahaha! Loving the new angle that might explain the use of one image.

    “Most advertisers in press and tv use models to advertise products including labour,cons,libs and ukip!!”

    I keep hearing this one and will keep asking the same question in response; can you show me just one example of any of the main parties using paid models next to testimonials?

    Comment by Tim Ireland — June 2, 2009 @ 9:17 am

  95. Private Eye 1237 (29th May), referring to “the BNP’s patriotic British Jobs For British Workers election leaflet”, says, “Less amused is Robert Macey, election agent for Shropshire Conservatives, who mined the same online photo gallery for his handsome county council leaflet which features one of the very same hard-hatted, yellow-jacketed Oregon construction workers as on the BNP flyer. Fickle fellows, builders, eh?” (I don’t think you got the builders.)

    So there’s him, apparently. But I don’t know if he had the fellow going,

    “When I was one-and-twenty
    I heard a wise man say,
    ‘Vote you for Robert Macey
    Upon election day.
    Do not vote for New Labour.
    Imagine if they won!’
    Yes, if they should, I trow I would
    Go back to Oregon.”

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — June 2, 2009 @ 9:54 am

  96. Heh.

    I did note the builders on my site, but they didn’t rate more than a passing mention because there were no testimonials assigned directly to those models (which is the sharpest edge of this issue). If Robert Macey assigned testimonials to the builders, I would genuinely like to see proof of that; then maybe the BNP will have the beginnings of a solid “Wahhhh! But they’re doing it too!” argument… while they pose as the honest alternative.

    PS - Once again, for the benefit of any latecomers, I will point out that I do not play favourites when is comes to candidates pulling fast ones with testimonials in their campaign literature:
    http://www.bloggerheads.com/anne_milton/labels/tory%20ringers.html

    Comment by Tim Ireland — June 2, 2009 @ 10:03 am

  97. “It is an offence to publish an image in 2009 of military or police personel under the terrorism uk laws..”

    Actually, it’s an offence to take an image of military or police personnel while they are engaged in anti-terrorism activities, but otherwise you’re right.

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — June 2, 2009 @ 10:54 am

  98. [...] nonces (like Ukip…) without putting up a good fight, the BNP made a valiant effort with their imaginary voters. In the end, though, they had to be disqualified from the contest under regulation 4.3: that the [...]

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  99. Using stock photography is standard fair in advertising however what is idiotic on the BNP part in this is that they say “Brittish jobs for Brittish People” then go and use foreigners work to publicise their “cause”.

    They have paid foreigners in a campaign to tell us that it is terrible that Brittain has less jobs for the Brittish.
    they dont even follow their own manifesto.

    Comment by Rich — June 5, 2009 @ 11:30 am

  100. [...] if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck…) Now the BNP are at it again. This web site http://www.newspeak.org.uk/2009/05/13/british-national-party-voters-dont-exist/, has analysed their latest election leaflet which feature “real” people who are [...]

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  101. [...] families, and quotes about why they will be voting BNP. Except of course, that the photos are from different websites, not affiliated with the BNP, and the quotes are made up, by the BNP. You couldn’t make this [...]

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  102. [...] Paulger broke the story on his blog and the UK Telegraph picked it up and so did The Sun. [...]

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  103. I completely agree with John, they have not used the imagery to back up their statements, simply to advertise the topic. They do not need to be the couple that has been quoted but a picture to let the viewer understand what audience the paragraph may refer to.

    Comment by Andy Donaldson — June 21, 2009 @ 6:42 pm

  104. oh the part of Northern Ireland IS BRITISH,

    Comment by john — July 8, 2009 @ 12:21 am

  105. Reported on the “Bad Science” forum: “Babes of the BNP”
    at http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/babes-of-the-bnp/

    Points to note:

    1. It’s from a web site called “Viceland”. And they don’t mean the kind of vice you get from a tool shop. It may even do nasty things to your computer for all that I know, but in that case I’ve probably got it too.

    2. There are pictures. They are probably “glamour” category, which means that the new Chinese government software that blocks photographs with too much skin tone might let you see these. But your mum wouldn’t.

    3. I have no real idea how serious this document is. For all I know they do it every week with a different topic.

    And you’ve got to laugh. A bit. It’s like The Weakest Link.

    “Think of Nazi Germany, or 1930s Italy.”
    “I can’t even remember when that happened really.”

    “What’s the best thing about living in Britain today?”
    “I hate Britain, and I want to move to Spain in the next couple of years, ‘cos our country’s not England anymore. [...] When I went to Lanzarote, I felt more English there than I do here.”

    Try Glasgow, dear. You’ll feel as English as it’s possible to be.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — July 9, 2009 @ 12:43 am

  106. A comment from a Dutch girl: Why don’t you(=BNP)use the royal family stock photo’s for your compaign, they are cheap, also free to use (!?) and most of all the royal family are british!!!
    For example: I think when BNP use the royal family photo’s they will be sued by the queen and her family, don’t you think so?????
    You BNP as a party of the British nation, an example(a MODEL!)for the english people, I think you could at least offer YOUR APOLOGY TO THOSE AMERICAN MODELS/ACTORS.

    Carly

    British National Party Voters Don’t Exist
    Filed under: uncategorized — Stephen Paulger @ 4:20 pm
    In the last few days the British Nationalist Party (BNP) have started to deliver their campaign leaflets. There are at least two varieties but they are both quite similar and their main campaigning point is against immigration. You can see leaflets delivered by the BNP around the UK thanks to The Straight Choice a website dedicated to mapping campaign leaflets. The current leaflets feature a section titled “Why we’re all voting BNP” with photos accompanied by a bit of text, presumably this is to encourage people to think BNP voters are just like you. Unfortunately for the BNP none of these voters are real and you can prove it by using web-based reverse image searches.

    Comment by carly_ch — August 6, 2009 @ 8:56 am

  107. HO HO HUM, WHO THE HELL CARES ,ALL, AND I REPEAT ALL POLITICAL PARTYS LIE ,ADS LIE ,SO BLOODY WHAT?THE REAL REALITY IS WHY IS THE MEDIA IN SUCH A LATHER OVER THIS ,I THINK THE LADY PROTESTS TO MUCH?THE MERDOCK ,NEWSCORP IS SHOWING ITS TRUE POLITICAL COLOURS?THE KING MAKER, OF BRITISH THREE HEADED HYDRA, LIBS, LABOUR ,CONSER, ARE SHIT SCARED AT THE ANGER OF WHITE PEOPLE IN THE STREETSTHE TIME HAS COME TO REMOVE THIS DEGENERATE ATHENS, TYPE , WITH A MORE SPARTA TYPE, BASED ON THE STRICT MATHS OF 50 50% ISM<NUMBER OF BLACK HERE DEPENDANT ON NUMBER OF WHITES THERE ,SAME WITH ISLAMISTS, OTHER WISE FUCK OFF

    Comment by james — November 17, 2009 @ 3:44 am

  108. Oooh, james, I didn’t realise there were any Apple ][s still on the internet!

    Comment by Peet McKimmie — November 17, 2009 @ 8:43 am

  109. So, James - you’ll accept a non-white British population equal to the total white population of the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, …

    One out - one in.

    And apparently there are nearly 100 million Christians in China, so to make up for that you’d better turn… whatever else it is they have over there. It isn’t Maoist any more, is it?

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — November 17, 2009 @ 2:39 pm

  110. The pdf attachment named placed numbers 1953 to 1963 shows
    one particular error number placed betweeen the same two electoral
    numbers spanning a period of ten years and at least three different
    printing companies and through five different electoral wards. The
    other pdf shows most of the placed errors running through Red house
    estate from 1951 to 1970 an amount of these same errors will also run
    through several other electoral wards.

    http://www.4shared.com/u/zvzvpsq/7665beb5/foursgiant.html

    Comment by foursgiant — January 17, 2010 @ 8:52 pm

  111. I don’t follow the argument exactly, but do you know that opening PDF documents from strangers can do astonishingly bad things to your PC? It’s true.

    Comment by Robert Carnegie — January 19, 2010 @ 10:22 pm

  112. OK, Its easy to be smart ,and cinical, but the basic law ,of balance still is right, that is why people support the BNP.Orwell FREEDOM IS THE RIGHT TO SAY 2+2=4,Their is a logic to what the BNP is saying, EVEN IF YOU VEIW ALL OF THEIR SUPPORTERS AS NAZIS,the other political partys are ,just ignoring it( maths).Same with black and whirte , how many blacks do you know that have blue eyes blonde hair ,its no good to say you believe in equality if you dont first believe in genetic equity, CI-V-IC values have a maths bases,(xy)+2=v=(yx)-2 IC the english language means the law of numbers ,think of all the words with it in it,

    Comment by james — February 27, 2010 @ 1:04 am

  113. [...] Many congrats to Stephen Paulger as well, on this site which is new to me http://www.newspeak.org.uk/2009/05/13/british-national-party-voters-dont-exist/ This is what the BNP pretended to look like This is what the BNP actually look like 19 [...]

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